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Qualcomm Snapdragon 765/765G Integrated Baseband, Why 865 Not ?

by Kamlesh Bhati
December 4, 2019
Qualcomm Snapdragon 865 vs 765G

Qualcomm Snapdragon 865 vs 765G

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Qualcomm Snapdragon 865, 765 and 765G Introduction

On the first day of the Qualcomm Snapdragon Technology Summit, Qualcomm unveiled a total of three Snapdragon 765 / 765G /and Qualcomm Snapdragon 865 processors, of which the Snapdragon 865 is the flagship and the Snapdragon 765 integrates the X52 5G baseband It is expected that the Snapdragon 765G is a GPU enhanced version of 765.

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Qualcomm Snapdragon 765 and 765G

According to Qualcomm’s brief introduction, the X52 baseband speed of the Snapdragon 765 / 765G can reach 3.7 Gbps, and it supports millimeter wave, Sub 6, independent / non-independent networking and DSS. In addition, the Qualcomm Snapdragon 765 / 765G processor is also equipped with a 5th generation AI engine, and the built-in ISP supports 4K@60fps HDR10+. Snapdragon 765 / 765G processors support cameras up to 192MP pixels.

Qualcomm Snapdragon 765 5g
Qualcomm Snapdragon 765 5G

Qualcomm Snapdragon 865

Snapdragon 865 is equipped with X55 5G baseband, uses the 5th generation AI engine, supports HDR10 +, and 5G network supports mmWave millimeter wave, Sub 6 GHz, CA, DSS, independent and non-independent networking. Qualcomm Snapdragon 865’s AI performance has reached 15 TOPS, which is twice the previous generation. It supports 8K30 frames or 64MP 4K video shooting, and supports up to 200 MP cameras.

Qualcomm Snapdragon 865
Qualcomm Snapdragon 865

Qualcomm 3D Sonic Max In-display Fingerprint Scanner

Qualcomm announced a second-generation 3D acoustic wave display fingerprint sensor, called 3D Sonic Max.

Qualcomm 3D Sonic Max
Qualcomm 3D Sonic Max

According to reports, this new fingerprint recognition module increases the size of the sensor, which is 17 times larger than the previous generation, and supports simultaneous authentication of two fingerprints. Qualcomm also said that the new sensor is faster and easier to use.

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Qualcomm 3D Sonic Max
Qualcomm 3D Sonic Max

Qualcomm’s 3D Sonic Max sensor measures 20 mm x 30 mm with a sensing area of ​​600 square millimeters. It is only 0.15 mm thick and does not take up much space. Further applications of this ultrasonic fingerprint sensor include authentication of sensitive information applications such as banking and work mail. Because the larger surface area allows the system to read two fingerprints at the same time, it is also more secure.

Unlike the previous generation, the 3D Sonic Max sensor’s fingerprint data is processed directly by the hardware without the need for additional algorithms.

Xiaomi and Oppo Announcement

As two domestic mobile phone manufacturers that have long-term cooperation with Qualcomm, the executives of Xiaomi and OPPO both attended Qualcomm’s Snapdragon Technology Summit and gave a keynote speech. At the summit, both Xiaomi and OPPO announced that they would “the first batch release” of a new generation of Snapdragon 865 processors, which also caused netizens to discuss who will actually launch this flagship processor. In this regard, Xiaomi Lin Bin stated that Xiaomi Mi 10 will be “the world’s first mass production”.

Xiaomi MI 10

Xiaomi Lin Bin stated on Weibo that “Xiaomi Mi 10 will be the first mass-produced Qualcomm Snapdragon 865 flagship platform in the world, supporting NSA / SA 5G dual-mode.”

Xiaomi Mi 10 and Redmi K30
Xiaomi Mi 10 and Redmi K30

Oppo Flagship with Snapdragon 865

OPPO also said in a press release that OPPO will launch the first batch of flagship 5G mobile phones based on the Snapdragon 865 mobile platform in the first quarter of 2020, without revealing specific models.

In general, Qualcomm Snapdragon 865 will not be “mass-launched” until January next year at the earliest, and 5G phones equipped with the sub-flagship Snapdragon 765 / 765G will be launched this month. Xiaomi and OPPO have corresponding products. It also confirmed that the K30 will launch the Snapdragon 765 processor.

Snapdragon 865 vs Snapdragon 765G and 765

However, the difference is that the 865 still uses a separate method with an external X55 baseband processor; the Snapdragon 765 / 765G mobile platform instead integrates 5G connectivity. To many people, this is difficult to accept and understand. The highest-end flagship product platform has instead adopted “lagging” productivity. Since Qualcomm did not announce too many technical details today, the author can only try to give some views and analysis of his own.

Why Snapdragon 865 not use integrated Baseband ?

According to weibo blogger, chairman of Qualcomm China, explained that this year ’s flagship phones using 855 chips are all plug-in basebands, so removing the X50 baseband chip can also be used for 4G flagships. This kind of processing The plan also continued to 865.

However, he emphasized that the flagship mobile phone using Snapdragon 865 plus X55 will never be outdated in terms of performance or power consumption compared to the flagships of any other non-Qualcomm manufacturer. Mid-range phones using Snapdragon 765/765 G SoCs will not be weaker in performance and power consumption than any of its competitors.

Phones with Snapdragon 865 and 765 series

  1. Oppo Reno 3 ( Snapdragon 765G )
  2. Xiaomi Mi 10 ( Snapdragon 865 )
  3. Nubia Red Magic 5G ( Snapdragon 865 )
  4. Oppo Flagship ( Snapdragon 865 )
  5. Redmi K30 (Snapdragon 730G )
  6. Meizu 17 ( Snapdragon 865 )
  7. Nokia, Realme and Motorola’s future flagship

Qualcomm will introduce the detailed information of these three processors tomorrow at 3 am, interested friends can pay attention.

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